I about started sobbing at "Why can't I want that?" I know! So heartbreaky! It was a great contrast to her earlier bemused/baffled expressions at Mindy and the girls' enjoyments.
I don't expect FNL to break that mold, you know? That's not what it does. You're right, absolutely. For that reason it sometimes leads me to reflect on these norms--but I thought the scenes were pitch-perfect for the show.
I do think it was bittersweet for Tami, because she knows Julie was ready and made a good choice, but it's always a little sad to have your kids grows up. Do you also get a sense from Tami that she wants Julie's adolescence to be what hers was not? I know that's been explored before when she talked about having gone through a rebellious period, but I get the sense that Tami had some rough times with guys--she's so vulnerable when she talks to Julie about saying yes once not meaning you have to say yes always... I mean I don't know, maybe all parents would be that worried, but it seems personal as well maybe? I know I'd want to protect my children from the bad things that happened to me--not in the same way as Tami, but I can imagine that something similar is motivating her. Teenage love and sex can be pretty rocky and emotional, and it's understandable for her to remember her own roller-coaster of emotions and hope to protect Julie from that (even if she can't completely).
The pat-ness of his getting into college unsettled me a little--not as a problem with the show, but in contrast to how characters like Tyra slave away, but those who are good at football have a free ticket they really didn't even want. Oh yeah, I find that just CRAZY. A lot of the time I do feel like I'm watching a foreign culture--because it is foreign to me, definitely. I love the characters but so much of the surrounding culture makes me headtilt and go 'wt...?'
I don't think I'd like it if everyone got their happy ending. In reality, some of them won't get what they want, at least not right away Yeah, I agree, and I have faith it won't be. I suspect it was more important to give Smash and Jason some payoff because their plotlines wrapped up earlier than the others--so to leave the audience feeling unfulfilled vis a vis their development would have been bad tv. With the remaining cast I think we'll see a mix. And also one thing I liked about the Smash and Jason round-ups was that they ended at a point where both characters at achieved a goal, but we know it's not the end of the story. I can imagine Jason struggling to balance work and family life, for instance. And I can imagine Smash having some highs at college but still struggling to balance fame versus study and not have it all go to his head. So I think it's possible for them to give us emotional satisfaction without making everything 'perfect'. Tyra getting into any college at all, for instance, and looking forward to the future, would be a win.
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Date: 2008-12-20 01:48 am (UTC)I know! So heartbreaky! It was a great contrast to her earlier bemused/baffled expressions at Mindy and the girls' enjoyments.
I don't expect FNL to break that mold, you know? That's not what it does.
You're right, absolutely. For that reason it sometimes leads me to reflect on these norms--but I thought the scenes were pitch-perfect for the show.
I do think it was bittersweet for Tami, because she knows Julie was ready and made a good choice, but it's always a little sad to have your kids grows up.
Do you also get a sense from Tami that she wants Julie's adolescence to be what hers was not? I know that's been explored before when she talked about having gone through a rebellious period, but I get the sense that Tami had some rough times with guys--she's so vulnerable when she talks to Julie about saying yes once not meaning you have to say yes always... I mean I don't know, maybe all parents would be that worried, but it seems personal as well maybe? I know I'd want to protect my children from the bad things that happened to me--not in the same way as Tami, but I can imagine that something similar is motivating her. Teenage love and sex can be pretty rocky and emotional, and it's understandable for her to remember her own roller-coaster of emotions and hope to protect Julie from that (even if she can't completely).
The pat-ness of his getting into college unsettled me a little--not as a problem with the show, but in contrast to how characters like Tyra slave away, but those who are good at football have a free ticket they really didn't even want.
Oh yeah, I find that just CRAZY. A lot of the time I do feel like I'm watching a foreign culture--because it is foreign to me, definitely. I love the characters but so much of the surrounding culture makes me headtilt and go 'wt...?'
I don't think I'd like it if everyone got their happy ending. In reality, some of them won't get what they want, at least not right away
Yeah, I agree, and I have faith it won't be. I suspect it was more important to give Smash and Jason some payoff because their plotlines wrapped up earlier than the others--so to leave the audience feeling unfulfilled vis a vis their development would have been bad tv. With the remaining cast I think we'll see a mix. And also one thing I liked about the Smash and Jason round-ups was that they ended at a point where both characters at achieved a goal, but we know it's not the end of the story. I can imagine Jason struggling to balance work and family life, for instance. And I can imagine Smash having some highs at college but still struggling to balance fame versus study and not have it all go to his head. So I think it's possible for them to give us emotional satisfaction without making everything 'perfect'. Tyra getting into any college at all, for instance, and looking forward to the future, would be a win.