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*takes a deep breath*

OK,

radioreverie wheedled effectively... and clearly I don't have enough to do (*hysterical laughter*), so I'm doing that meme that's going around.

Name a character (from a show I'm familiar with) and I'll give you three (or more) facts about them from my personal canon/fanon. (Personal amendment: with characters you think I know well, you may also choose an aspect of their lives so I have a focus.)

ETA: You can ask for a character that's already been asked for--I don't mind. It might take me a while to get to them, but I promise I will do so.

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I had to ask - Kara Thrace!

Eeep! Tricky one! Ok, here goes... it's my canon so I can do with her as I will. *evil giggle*

1. Kara likes people that make her laugh. Few people do. Even fewer people these days.
2. Kara likes slow, languorous, sensual love-making (though she doesn't call it that). The guys she gets into bed with often misread this, but she's actually not that into kinky stuff. She can do it, sure, but it's tenderness that really turns her on. Zak was good like that. Even Sam's too direct sometimes--not enough foreplay, though she'd never tell him that. It was better when they were first together, but now they're so matter-of-fact about it. It's still good--it gets her a chemical release that she needs because she's usually wound up tighter than a spring, but it doesn't touch her on the level that good sex, really good sex does.
3. Kara doesn't expect anyone to like her. Ever. Sometimes she even takes pride in having it confirmed that they don't. She'd rather be right than liked. That doesn't mean she's blind to the ways that she does crave attention from others. But she's very good at being consciously able to switch into denial--she knows other people aren't as good at this as her and it frustrates her. What's the point in spending time thinking about problems that can't be solved? People say 'denial' like it's a dirty word--Kara sees it as a useful method of self-control.

Oh, KARA. *hugs to both you and her*

#1 -- And Kara herself laughs so seldom these days. :(

#2 -- I can really, really see that. I've often thought she's a closet romantic, but I can't explain why.

#3 -- Yes. Wow. And she's always so matter-of-fact about it, thanks to a lifetime of self-loathing. Always expecting the worst of herself and from others. Never believing she deserves to love or be loved, either romantically (Lee) or platonically (Adama and the Fleet). And convinced that her loving someone else will never do them any good. After all, look what it did to Zak. Look at all the hurt she's caused Lee. I sometimes think it's why she can love Sam so easily: he's not as deeply under her skin, and she knows that if he left, it'd hurt, but it wouldn't destroy her the way Lee can with one glance.

I've often thought she's a closet romantic, but I can't explain why.
I confess I drew on

supacat's words, from back when she watched the show. We had a huge ~~argument~~ discussion about this one day (in RL not online). It started because she couldn't understand why Lee would be nervous sexually with Kara and I said one of the reasons was because she seems like she'd be so damn demanding in bed, and he assumed she had some really complex sex life/kinks etc. I was startled that Cat seemed so determined and sure that Kara was actually pretty straightforward and liked love and affection in her sex, but it's stayed with me, and I guess we saw that on New Caprica. :-)

I sometimes think it's why she can love Sam so easily: he's not as deeply under her skin, and she knows that if he left, it'd hurt, but it wouldn't destroy her the way Lee can with one glance.
That's a wonderful explanation--thank you! I'm thrilled you liked my Kara comments--it means a lot.

Now that I think of it, I *can* see some canon support for that.

Both Kara-POV sex flashbacks have featured "slow, tender love-making". We saw it with Zak in AoC, and Lee in KLG1. Granted, the Leoben scene in Maelstrom was quite different, but that whole thing involved a ton of other issues. And we saw her being very tender with Lee in the UB flashback.

*nods* I saw it after Cat pointed it out (and I took off my Lee-goggles!). I think it's particularly telling that in her own POV flashbacks it's slow and tender.

With UB, I suspect it was a great relief to Lee to find her so comfortable with his own inclination towards tenderness--because they clearly did really connect--I suspect that's partly why he felt so confident and optimistic post-coitus. ;-)

The Leoben sex definitely was different--but I think it was clear that Kara was uncomfortable with it. Sure, she still felt aroused by it--but she's unsettled by that. It feels sexy but it doesn't feel like home like the others do. And because it was a vision it felt far more like it was about Kara wrestling with her issues than about Kara's 'regular' sexual choices.

Excellent! And I heartily agree with

wisteria_'s comments as well, esp. re: Sam being less deeply under Kara's skin than Lee. I think Kara is secretly into slow-and-sweet partly because affectionate touch must still be something sort of alien yet still deeply yearned-for, given her childhood history -- abusive mother and a father who wasn't there. (I think she digs that kind of expression of love in a non-romantic relationships, too -- like when Adama brushes her cheek with his hand in the big Kobol reunion, she nearly breaks down. How many times was she ever treated like that by her real mom? Did she have memories of her father treating her that way before he left?)

But romantically speaking, I like how you have her crave exactly the kind of thing which Lee could provide (and wants to, in "Scar"). Intimacy with Lee is an alluring, yet terrifying prospect to her.

partly because affectionate touch must still be something sort of alien yet still deeply yearned-for, given her childhood history
That would make sense. *nods* And she was so awkward with Kacey, but then seemed to get a lot out of showing her tenderness/hugging her.

romantically speaking, I like how you have her crave exactly the kind of thing which Lee could provide
Yes, well for three brief paras, she was MINE to do with as I wished. ;-) (Though I actually do think there's a strong reading for that on the show--at least as strong as other theories on Kara's romantic life. *g*)

Oh, yes -- I think the moment that is so key is when Kacey reaches out to grab Kara's hand as she rises to leave. THAT'S what truly gets to her, IMO. The child's gesture was just so open and artless, it just said "please love me."

Yes, well for three brief paras, she was MINE to do with as I wished. ;-) (Though I actually do think there's a strong reading for that on the show--at least as strong as other theories on Kara's romantic life. *g*)

Oh, yes, I agree that the show actually backs you up on that one! I just love how it fits in nicely with our own shippy desires. We might be mad for L/K, but that doesn't mean we're wrong. ;)

Good gracious, I keep reading all sorts of stimulating K/Lish things and I want to shove more things into my Essay of Dooooom and read everyone's old meta on almost every episode and I can't keep doing that. Heh. Silly me. Tomorrow I'll just crank out a version and send it to you, come hell or high water.

Heee! I know... there's always more to read! :-) But don't worry--you can always update your meta later. Yes! Crank out that draft! :-)

So I'm thinking about this Lee prompt... you gave me the DARK period! *lol* I'll do my best, but Lee takes me a little longer than the other characters. *g* I may need to sleep on it again... worked last time!

Sorry...it is a rather dark period. And difficult--such huge gaps left, there! I'm wrestling with it myself, which is why I asked. ;)

Really, though, any time period would do! Or how about this: 3 times Lee loses control (anytime in his life pre-mini)/

Ohh, that's a cool prompt too! Don't worry. I'm quite pleased to tackle the dark period because of the gaps--it's definitely somewhere I think fic writers could go to town. I'm coming down with a cold I think, so possible delay, but I will get on to them. *nods*

Oh dear, I hope you feel better soon. Don't worry about that request at all! You've already written so much, and they're a joy to read.

I don't know if this will sound appealing to you or not, but green tea with mint + lemonjuice and honey is my magic cold-fighting potion. :)

I'm feeling quite under the weather, today, too. Allergies and coughing in the house left everyone sleepless, and it's really hot in the house today. I'm feeling very tired even though I've already napped. No essay tonight, I'm afraid. (Heh, I always suck at keeping things short.)

Well, take care! Big e-hugs.

Hey sweetie. I finally wrote the three things responses up for you. They are here (http://bop-radar.livejournal.com/110101.html) since they got long. *headdesk*

*Throws head back and howls*

This is just so sad - and so, so true. My poor Kara! And I've always thought 2 was the case, mainly because of the Zak flashback in Act of Contrition (which is definitely tender, rather than kinky) and a little because of the fantasy-Lee sex in KLG. Neither one looked all that rough and ready.

Fabulous job, and thanks!

Thanks! :-)

because of the Zak flashback in Act of Contrition (which is definitely tender, rather than kinky) and a little because of the fantasy-Lee sex in KLG. Neither one looked all that rough and ready.
*nods* That's what I drew on too.

Ah, Kara. I miss her laughing, really laughing. We've seen it so seldom recently.

What's the point in spending time thinking about problems that can't be solved?

Wow, good one Bop! This is so different than Lee, it's a wonder they speak the same language. Glad you have a pair of Kara googles around there too. Hope it wasn't too weird trying on her POV. You're really getting a good bead on her.

it's a wonder they speak the same language.
I'm not sure they do! ;-p

It was great fun trying out Kara's pov. I like this meme a lot. Of course, I owe it all to you and Alanna and Latte and Cat and all the other Kara fans that I can even manage those few short sentences of Kara-ness! ;-)

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