Hi, nice to meet you! I hope you enjoy the episode when you get the DVDs on Tuesday.
I've never put him on a pedestal, and I am looking forward to seeing more of the passion/anger from him. Well, there's definitely more of that. I enjoyed it--I like it when he gets bitchy and lets himself go a bit more, and he was definitely riding a sea of emotions in this ep. More Lee is always good!
I think I tried to 'get' Lee/Dee for a while too. And the missing pieces in this extended edition really helped confirm what I/we'd always thought about them as a couple. It also helped me understand why Dee stuck with Lee for so long. And yeah, I do think she left him because of the Baltar trial: something that was far more about the 'true' Lee than the Lee she saw. As many people have pointed out, Dee didn't really know Lee all that well when they got married. They hadn't been dating that long, and Lee admits that he hadn't been thinking of marriage at all until the Kara thing. Later Dee admits she married Lee because he was so like his father... except he's NOT so like his father as she thinks, and the trial really put those two in opposite places. I think it's within character for Dee to be intolerant of Lee's principled stance. She doesn't have as high ideals as he does and she does like the 'status quo'. I'd say she's quite conservative, in the sense of wanting to preserve order more than wanting to defend ideals such as justice and freedom. So yeah, it works for me that she left him when she did.
Was she saying he makes his move at the worst possible times? Did he make a move when she was with Zak? Or did he not and she wanted him to? Unclear! I was really confused by her meaning there and I wished there'd been some elaboration. But it read as if she was conflating all sorts of different threads of frustration--with Sam, with Lee, with wanting them but not wanting them. It's possibly Kara didn't even know what she meant!
I do agree with her that he should have made that move back during Season One -- preferably during Colonial Day, but then we wouldn't have had all of this delicious angst! Hee! Well it would have been great if he had, but I guess I always really understood why he didn't. There was SO much holding him back in those days--Zak, their roles as CAG and pilot, and--as Lee says here--how terrifying and overwhelming his need for her was. It seems like admitting how desperately he loved her was hard for Lee because it left him so powerless. I always thought he was sure he'd get knocked back by Kara in those days. *I* was sure he'd get knocked back! So I see why it didn't happen. It's only in retrospect that I have more faith that Kara would have been open to it.
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Date: 2008-03-13 10:33 pm (UTC)I've never put him on a pedestal, and I am looking forward to seeing more of the passion/anger from him.
Well, there's definitely more of that. I enjoyed it--I like it when he gets bitchy and lets himself go a bit more, and he was definitely riding a sea of emotions in this ep. More Lee is always good!
I think I tried to 'get' Lee/Dee for a while too. And the missing pieces in this extended edition really helped confirm what I/we'd always thought about them as a couple. It also helped me understand why Dee stuck with Lee for so long. And yeah, I do think she left him because of the Baltar trial: something that was far more about the 'true' Lee than the Lee she saw. As many people have pointed out, Dee didn't really know Lee all that well when they got married. They hadn't been dating that long, and Lee admits that he hadn't been thinking of marriage at all until the Kara thing. Later Dee admits she married Lee because he was so like his father... except he's NOT so like his father as she thinks, and the trial really put those two in opposite places. I think it's within character for Dee to be intolerant of Lee's principled stance. She doesn't have as high ideals as he does and she does like the 'status quo'. I'd say she's quite conservative, in the sense of wanting to preserve order more than wanting to defend ideals such as justice and freedom. So yeah, it works for me that she left him when she did.
Was she saying he makes his move at the worst possible times? Did he make a move when she was with Zak? Or did he not and she wanted him to?
Unclear! I was really confused by her meaning there and I wished there'd been some elaboration. But it read as if she was conflating all sorts of different threads of frustration--with Sam, with Lee, with wanting them but not wanting them. It's possibly Kara didn't even know what she meant!
I do agree with her that he should have made that move back during Season One -- preferably during Colonial Day, but then we wouldn't have had all of this delicious angst!
Hee! Well it would have been great if he had, but I guess I always really understood why he didn't. There was SO much holding him back in those days--Zak, their roles as CAG and pilot, and--as Lee says here--how terrifying and overwhelming his need for her was. It seems like admitting how desperately he loved her was hard for Lee because it left him so powerless. I always thought he was sure he'd get knocked back by Kara in those days. *I* was sure he'd get knocked back! So I see why it didn't happen. It's only in retrospect that I have more faith that Kara would have been open to it.